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Post by Ness Snorlaxia on Jul 8, 2006 3:22:25 GMT -5
I've been thinking recently that it might be a good idea to re-found the region. Refounding is a process in which nations move out of a region to a temporary region (with a name like "New Hyrule" or something), let the original region die out, then have the new founder found the region again under the same name. Having a founder can bring many advantages, such as... - The region could possibly become more stable.
- The region would have far less potential to be invaded.
- During the re-founding proccess, nations that don't really do anything in the region (such as be active or post on the forum) would CTE.
- After all the spam trouble, it would help bring new strength to the region.
But, there are some disadvantages, too - these mostly have to do with the re-founding proccess itself. - Our numbers won't be as high as they would be, being reduced to a core group of nations. Recruiting, of course, helps region to grow.
- Due to the new NS rules, a delegate may eject as many nations as he/she wants, but is limited by the amount of influence it has. Basically, most active nations will move to the new region, and we'd be left with a pile of inactive nations. Having a set date by which all nations must move out could help.
- As it is now, the region is quite large with over 300 nations. Refounding might take a while.
So, what do you think? Any ideas, or opposed to such a plan?
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Post by Dundee West on Jul 8, 2006 4:04:59 GMT -5
Not that it's any of my business, but re-founding is a real headache from my experience... But for a region such as Hyrule, with no founder it would be a good idea, I suppose. (perhaps with the new Hyrule you could change to an Invision forum too ) This doesn't really matter much - numbers don't, activity does. Another problem would be getting the current Hyrule to die out (I guess it could be solved by passwording the region, like it is at the moment anyway, but there are always a few nations who seem to refuse to move... thus keeping the region alive) Probably the best advantage you listed. Under an active founder's hawk-eye, a region can flourish and feel safe. But really, thinking about it more I can see more advantages. Sometimes a big region, such as Hyrule, is really in need of a fresh start, just to keep things interesting. Oh, and if you were wanting to be founder, Ness, and I think there would be no-one better for the job, better hurry and found the region of 'New Hyrule' quickly before someone else does. I've seen quite a few regions doing something like this and turned out to be a success (look at the re-founded Ille de France for example). Another thing that is often discussed is merging with another region, which I would be totally opposed to under nay conditions as you would lose your regional identity. You've just got to be careful though, that you don't change the things that make Hyrule, Hyrule. Got to keep the 'Rule' in Hyrule . But of course, I think re-founding the region should be a democratic decision to be put to your member nations.
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Post by Dundee West on Jul 8, 2006 4:07:59 GMT -5
Oh, plus it would be an excellent excuse for you to implement any constitutional changes too.
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Post by Ness Snorlaxia on Jul 8, 2006 4:23:38 GMT -5
Yeah, I think more towards the advantages too, and agree with you on a lot of the things you said. Of course, the region won't be refounded unless most people agree to it. I would definitely prefer an invisionfree forum, but we're already well established on these forums.
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Post by Springfield and Zara on Jul 8, 2006 9:46:53 GMT -5
Seems like a good idea, though I wouldn't move back to Hyrule again. Just found New Hyrule, proclaim it as a successor of Hyrule and active nations will move there within a week or so. And I'm for cheering for invison, also
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Post by Hilayia on Jul 8, 2006 10:42:05 GMT -5
I dunno. Hyrule has 300 members, and the Delagate has a great deal of power. Rebuilding to get to any sort of Normality could take months. Is it really worth it on the off chance that an invader actually successfully takes the region over. It would almost be the same thing, actually, just a controlled fleeing of the Nation. I don't really know if it'd be worth it.
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Post by Porcu on Jul 8, 2006 11:06:39 GMT -5
I share this feeling with Hilayia
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Post by Ness Snorlaxia on Jul 8, 2006 17:35:41 GMT -5
During the refounding, the region would still remain passworded. The designated founder would go and create a new region with a puppet and the person who's the delegate stays behind until he/she is the last in the region.
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Post by Porcu on Jul 9, 2006 0:03:08 GMT -5
Well, I've stated how I feel so I'll leave it up to everyone else to say how they feel.
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Post by Dundee West on Jul 9, 2006 1:41:53 GMT -5
Haven't the mods been able to create founders in the past? Would they do it for Hyrule?
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Post by Ness Snorlaxia on Jul 9, 2006 1:44:47 GMT -5
They did, in the past, but don't do it anymore.
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Post by Dundee West on Jul 9, 2006 1:53:37 GMT -5
Ah, okay. I just remembered hearing about it once is all.
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Post by Gnidrah on Jul 9, 2006 2:09:33 GMT -5
the person who's the delegate stays behind until he/she is the last in the region. Don't you think it would be difficult to maintain the delegacy, at that point, Ness? With all due respect, you're looking at losing the delegate's seat to a rogue nation who takes over the region of Hyrule, and blocks the process from continuing. Then your efforts have been in vain, Hyrule is lost, and you're stuck with "New Hyrule" as your home region, while some kid who wants to play "king of Hyrule" is sitting in your throne, laughing at the fact that the only nations in "his" region are his friends.
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Post by Dundee West on Jul 9, 2006 2:35:51 GMT -5
Deleted: I was speaking crap...
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Post by Ness Snorlaxia on Jul 9, 2006 2:40:37 GMT -5
Obviously, it would, Gnid. It is possible to bring in a few UNs, if my endorsement count gets too low. And yes, that is a risk involved, and not a very nice one to think about.
But, even though the name would have been lost, the community would not be.
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