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Post by South Malaysia on Sept 12, 2006 20:59:53 GMT -5
Yes, always, i know that since i was CoJ (here) and a judge (of another region). Stating an opinion is all i was stating. She will have all the time in the world to defend herself.
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Post by Jerry Christ on Sept 12, 2006 21:33:55 GMT -5
Thank you Ness for your valuable input. You've made an impressive case, and I'm interested in hearing Tas's response.
Actually, since I probably won't be calling her up, I'll probably just read her response.
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Post by Porcu on Sept 13, 2006 18:10:03 GMT -5
I suppose she has a right to do so, but Ness does shed some new light on the situation at hand...
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Post by anishinabe on Sept 14, 2006 7:10:02 GMT -5
The Embassy may well have been archived, but there were posts placed in it. I suspect that what may well have happened is that it was never closed, although certainly meant to have been. Sept 6/06 (minaris, new member) Sept6/06 (ness) Sept 6/06 (South Malaysia) On AIM, EMC and I both chatted to South Malaysia about the fact that since the Hyrule Embassy had been opened in TGLM on July 6, and that Porcu had asked to be Ambassador to TGLM, we had not received a single report. SM was kind enough to post the Aug. 20 report immediately. At that time, I registered Willowinds on Hyrule, and tried to post in the archived embassy, but was unable to do so. That's when I PM'd both Ness and SM. Sept 7/07 (Willowinds) I'd forgotten I hadn't been able to post the night before. When I hit enter, the message above entered, at which point I edited the post. Those are the posts which were deleted. Again, whether a thread was left open that should not have been, I cannot say. Those of you who know me, KNOW that I don't lie. It's one of the things I'm known for, and it has put me in hot water on more than one occasion. And yes, there were 3 reports posted by the former Delegate of the region, Wrathful People. And yes, posts of mine in this thread have been edited. The original quotes can be found in one of the game threads. Right now, Porcu is in the odd position where he has been banned from TGLM, so to say that I am not one of his favourite people at the moment would be somewhat of an understatement. Keep that in mind when you read his "unbiased" comments. I feel no need to defend myself. I copied and posted the posts from the archived Embassy into Word. What you are seeing is what was there. Both Ness and South Malaysia posted in the locked thread. I'm merely a member of Hyrule. One who is disliked by the Founder for speaking the truth as I see it. And please keep in mind, while I have no problem with you referring to me as Tas seeing as that's the name you knew me best by, I no longer control Tas, and haven't in quite some time. Enough drama yet, JC? Edit: My apologies. On going back to my PM's in TGLM just now, I found the one where I had informed EMC of Ness's question of AG. As Porcu can tell you, I save all PM's. The AIM conversation with EM took place Sept 5.
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Post by anishinabe on Sept 14, 2006 8:35:04 GMT -5
Again, my apologies for the double post, but I just read the first line of Ness' response. Ness, even you know me better than to accuse me of lying. In fact, it's one of the things that upsets you most about me. I tell the truth, regardless of the consequences, and regardless of whether or not you particularly want to hear it. It's one of the reasons you stopped talking to me for some time after I resigned as Minister of Immigration. You, Gnid, EMC and I had met on AIM the afternoon before I resigned to talk about the upset on the forum. We all agreed to work as a team. Gnid was coaching EMC on how to present the materials for the trial. The judge pronounced sentence. Gnid agreed. And then most of Hyrule jumped in with comments. Rather than backing your Ministers and Chancellor, you overturned the judge's ruling. That was the point at which I resigned. To this day, Ness, you still believe I had no grounds for resigning. Principles are enough for me. If you tell me that WP's reports are still there and that I missed them, then you have my most humble apologies. He did indeed only post 3. I will admit to being angry when I went through the archived embassy. However, the other 5 posts WERE there, and at least 2 of my posts in this thread have been edited. I could post the links to the game thread from which they came, but what's the point? You, Ness, unlike the rest of the forum, are aware that I'm 43 years old. I taught teenagers for over 20 years, some of whom have remained in touch for that long. I have always been known for integrity, and both well-respected and well-liked in RL. I was taught not to lie when I was 5 or 6 years old. I'll admit to trying to pull things over on my parents in my teen years, but I haven't needed or wanted or understood the need to lie in over 20 years. Nor do I make unsubstantiated personal attacks on people. ROFL! Are we into enough high drama for you yet, JC?
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Post by Jerry Christ on Sept 14, 2006 9:22:02 GMT -5
Yes, the drama is quite enjoyable and always welcomed by me. It seems you take this stuff WAYYYYYYYYY too seriously, saving posts and PM's in Word documents and such. Wow! On one hand, I'm inclined to suggest that you step back from situations and consider that the vast majority of people involved in NS are doing so for fun and perhaps don't take their duties as seriously as you do, making everything a matter of Life and Death, Right and Wrong, Good and Evil, Truth and Lies, etc.... But on the other hand, your -- let us say, "dedication" -- are what drives the drama that makes my day. So please, do carry on!
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Post by anishinabe on Sept 14, 2006 10:49:54 GMT -5
ROFL! Oddly enough, JC, there are only certain individuals with whom, and certain situations in which I do it. And it would seem that perhaps this was one of the situations in which it was a good idea! Also, much of it occurs off the forums, where you're not a party to it. It's funny, JC. It's only because of what's gone on off-forum that I've kept copies of things. And game or no game, being called a liar still stings, particularly when there's no truth to it. So, no. I've not made anything "Life or Death" or "Good and Evil", but thank you for adding a little to the drama. And JC, I've always considered NS fun and still do. But then, no where other than in the NS world of Hyrule, have I been lied to and accused of being a liar.
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Post by duckwelfare on Sept 14, 2006 12:30:06 GMT -5
Yo, this brings up some sort of not-so-good feelings from the pit of my stomach, I mean ya' I like drama who don't but I mean if I going to be a member of a forum and just have my posts deleted or edited, why be here? Is there like bad blood with yall' or somethin?
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Post by anishinabe on Sept 14, 2006 12:38:57 GMT -5
Certainly not on my part.
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Post by duckwelfare on Sept 14, 2006 12:56:54 GMT -5
All I can be saying now is that we should be like peaceful, know what I'm sayin? And I like to be knowin if my posts and stuff are goin to be deleted and all that cuz' if they are just tell me aight cuz I won't waste my time postin'
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Post by Hilayia on Sept 14, 2006 14:04:12 GMT -5
Meh. There is a part of me that likes the drama, if for no other reason then it gives me something to do.
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Post by Ness Snorlaxia on Sept 14, 2006 14:29:30 GMT -5
The Embassy may well have been archived, but there were posts placed in it. I suspect that what may well have happened is that it was never closed, although certainly meant to have been. [posts] On AIM, EMC and I both chatted to South Malaysia about the fact that since the Hyrule Embassy had been opened in TGLM on July 6, and that Porcu had asked to be Ambassador to TGLM, we had not received a single report. SM was kind enough to post the Aug. 20 report immediately. At that time, I registered Willowinds on Hyrule, and tried to post in the archived embassy, but was unable to do so. That's when I PM'd both Ness and SM. [posts] Those are the posts which were deleted. Do you happen to mean posts made in this thread, which resemble what you said were in the posts? If you did, then I apologize. However, please understand that I felt that you were lying because you said the posts were made in the actual embasy itself (the thread that has the posts similar to the ones you mentioned is in the main Embassy Row forum).
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Post by Jerry Christ on Sept 14, 2006 15:47:07 GMT -5
I have no clue what's going on, but I've got something very, very important to say that will shock the very foundations of Hyrule. Here goes: *message deleted* < Last Edit: Today at 4:46 pm by Ness Snorlaxia >What is this? Someone messed with my thread!!
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Post by Porcu on Sept 14, 2006 17:19:31 GMT -5
Willowinds, I have not said absolutely anything in this thread against you, nor have I taken up any positions on this subject, as of yet. Taking this into consideration, I think it a bit silly for you to put unbiased in quotations. Also stating that you are not one of my favorite people is certainly not an understatement as I think that a simple apology would have sufficed, which I gave. Futhermore, I would like to end all of this hostility, which you don't seem to want to because you keep bringing it up.
I'm done with this subject and I would like to end it for good.
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Post by anishinabe on Sept 15, 2006 4:30:42 GMT -5
I suppose she has a right to do so, but Ness does shed some new light on the situation at hand... To address the last comment first, Porcu, had it not been for this comment, your name would not have come up in the conversation at all. "I suppose she has a right to do so" doesn't just imply, it says that perhaps I should be given the right to defend myself. The hostility is in your mind. I don't hold grudges. As I have been warned by many, you do. Ness, to address your questions, you've called my bluff. Yes, I did copy that thread into WORD, but no, I didn't use that copy to post the gist of the comments posted in this thread. And yes, the thread you've just pointed out is the thread to which I was referring. However, the last post that was there as recently as yesterday when I posted my first comment was September 2, made by you. The others were not there. I checked for them, EMC had checked for them and so did Minaris. It becomes very difficult to explain, unless threads have been split, but I am more than willing to accept your word for it that you did not do so. I accept your apology. It's not at all like you to call someone names. Could someone explain why, however, two of my posts in this thread were edited?
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